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the obama campaign is saying and what the romney campaign is not. >> a favorite talking point of the obama campaign is mitt romney's economic proposals would simply reinstate the tax cut and deregulation policy that led to the 2008 financial meltdown. two things should be said about this claim. one is it's gone unanswered by the romney camp and the second is it's utterly invalid. the tax cut put in place under president bush in 2001 and 2003 cannot be blamed for the mortgage market collapse that triggered the great recession. in fact, they can be credited with helping the economy out of the recession of 2001, 2002, and with helping overcome the economic damage from hurricane katrina. by the way, that expansion, and the tax revenue it produced were sufficient to drive down the federal budget deficit for 2005 through 2007. this despite massive war spending. as for deregulation, president obama himself said former president bush put more regulations in place than he has at the same time frame. it is true that there is one bit of deregulation regularly blamed by the liberal economists for help
talking about stimulating growth. and, david axelrod, who talked about the brazenness of governor romney, which is utterly laughable, no one is more brazen than david axelrod, he is ignoring the reality, destroying what the governor has said. that is unconscionable, i think you will pay a major price for it in the pool. megyn: i want to get to this soundbite from governor romney from the debate. he seemed to be talking about the different approaches. >> that manically, there are three ways we can cut the deficit. one, of course, is to raise taxes. number two is to cut spending, number three is to grow the economy. because if more people work in a growing economy, they are paying taxes and you can get the job done that way. the president would prefer raising taxes. i understand. the problem with raising taxes is that it slows down the rate of growth. you can never quite get the job done. i want to lower spending and encourage economic growth at the same time. megyn: he is talking about broadening the tax base, because if you lower the taxes, people have more money, they spend more money,
governor romney talking about the need to do that. i think also he will talk about having a fair approach that actually applies the laws that we have on the commonwealth of virginia but across the country. one of the things that we see with the border incidents i think most people want us to have a clear policy that we are working with the states not against the states to try to get that enforced. i think if governor romney does is that i think he will do well across the board with voters in virginia. >> geraldo: did you, kristine, enjoy the debate? >> i had a blast watching the debate. it was a lot of fun. >> geraldo: where did you watch t? at the pub or in church where did you watch it? >> i was actually with me family sitting on the couch. high-fiving everybody. >> geraldo: what did you think was the strongest moment, the governor's? >>> ry moment was strong from the way he walked out exuding leadership and confidence and he would not let president obama get away with this misinformation. there is a saying a lie runs around the world while the truth is still lacing up his sneakers. tha
, john? >> reporter: good morning. governor romney will be talking agriculture today. not surprisingly we're on a 700 acre farm owned by the cook family. a lot of soybeans and corn here. we're in madison county. governor romney won this in the caucuses by the way. he will argue the president's policies things like estate taxes, climate change, environmental regulations, energy policy are hurting farmers. he continues to go after the president on issue of jobs of the even though the unemployment number is down below the psych lodge call level at 8% on the stump in newport news, governor romney found a new way to use it. >> if you look back 60 years, at all the months we had unemployment before 8% before president obama. there were 39 months. in all 60 years with unemployment above 8%. under this president there have been 43 months. under one president alone. he does not understand what it takes to create a real recovery. i do. >> reporter: bill you mentioned the pew poll. the pew poll governor romney was seen as guy with new ideas. he was the one people trust to create jobs. bill: one of t
to correct you in the missed of the crisis, governor romney, you are talking about this again tonight, talked about the weakness, talked about apologies from the obama administration. was that really appropriate, rights in the middle of the crisis? >> on that same day, the obama administration had the exact same position. let's recall that they disavowed their own statement that they had put out earlier in the day in cairo. so we had the same position. it is never too early to speak out for our values. we should have spoken out right away when the green revolution was up and starting when the mullas in iran were attacking their people. we should not have called the assad a reformer when he was turning guns on his own people. we should always stand up for peace, democracy and individual rights. we should not be imposing devastating defense cuts because what that does, when we equivocate on our values -- >> here -- >> it makes us more weak. it projects weakness. when we look weak, our adversaries are more willing to -- >> with all due respect, that's a bunch of malarky-- >> reporter: why's th
mitt romney is and was last night. i mean, if he was talking, he was speaking last night, he was lying. and look, mitt romney had a good night, but you know, even a, you know, blind squirrel gets a nut every now and then. >> are these dirty attacks, calling mitt romney a liar. is it a good idea for the democrats. we're back with our panel. brian some suggest this is classless to come and attack mitt romney for lying when the president didn't seen prepared and shell shocked and that's the response. he was so shell shocked that mitt romney was lying that he didn't know how to respond. >> and mitt romney's facts were tricky, we don't have time for that. let's include john sununu, romney's surrogate who said that obama is lazy, incompetent. has no idea what's going on. on both sides comments being made and let's not make this one-sided when you're talking about it. >> clayton: is that fair, tammy? >> americans and i think the tea party is a good example of this want to be told the truth. we have impressions of these guys and americans are going to make up their own mind and we know that p
him he's back in the game. i would say there was a lot of talk before the debate that mitt romney, his -- the chances in the race were slipping away so a lot of republican donors were looking at moving to congressional races and wanted to think about the senate and house races as a way to save runs, if you will, because they thought romney's chance mrs. over t shows he's back in the game. >> the vice presidential debate, a lot of people who werethis on the fence have been telling me that they got the specifics that they wanted from the romney campaign this week with respect to jobs and an economic plan, healthcare and a lot of other domestic issues. now we switch to domestic and foreign policy. ryan is a numbers guy. how do you think he'll match up to vice president biden when it comes to the economy first, foreign policy second? >> i think it will be an even match. biden was in the senate 36 years so he has a very good understanding of federal issues as well. but paul ryan jokes about how he's been reading federal budgets since he was 22 years old. so they both have a very long backlo
. patti ann: talk about that so-called debate bounce that romney got. looking back historically, when a candidate is perceived to have won a debate, how long does that bounce last? >> there has not really been any record of an event like the debate we had last wednesday night. four years ago there was absolutely no debate bounce. eight years ago very modest because we haven't seen a challenger win so decisively. we do know most bounces in and of themselves last less than a week in today's 24, 7 news environment. patti ann: we'll see what happens after the upcoming vice-presidential debate and beyond. >> it will be interesting. patti ann: yeah, that's for sure. thank you as always for joining us with the very latest numberss. bill: he was telling us last week to wait until monday morn. very interesting how that develops. >>> the break in a case of a missing 10-year-old girl. jessica ridgeway is her name. police say jessica was last seen on friday morning walking to school and then she vanished. police extended their search into the town of superior, colorado. that is a bit north of den
, right field and maybe we would view a better idea who mitt romney is. he will talk how we are going do get out of the black hole, what we will do the next four years and keep paul ryan to task and not talk about the grand ideas but, actually, telling us exactly what is going on. >> we thought we would get a lot of that, we get the specifics from congressman ryan, with his budget plan laid out but it doesn't seem like the republicans want him to talk about it. why? >> what you saw in the last debate, mitt romney had a chance to speak for 90 minutes about his policies and plans. the problem with the rallies when you cover them people are looking for the 30-second sound bite, not for a long, detailed expose. >>shepard: but bill clinton gave us specifics. >> no one has been more specific on budgets and entitlement reform than paul ryan. with regard to -- look, we are not going to negotiate with ourselves. the only people with the budget are the republicans with plans to save social security and medicare. >> that doesn't get us anyone. if paul ryan knows his numbers he is thought allowed to
here. talk coming out all of the questions was about ann romney and michelle obama. we're not talking a lot about them. ann romney will be hosting "good morning america" tomorrow. what factors, do you think if any these two women may bring to the election and what we might see over the next four weeks? are they a factor? >> look the general argument out there that, spouses of candidates don't tend to win them elections. they can be a net draw back if they don't do a good job, if they plub or become a center of attention but neither women have been doing that what they have both proven they're very effective campaigners for their husbands an shoring up their messages. in that regard they're adding some ballast to both. campaigns. in particular reaching out to women voters we were just talking to. they're mostly there as sort of side by side to keep their husband's message out there, rather than necessarily winning the campaign on their own. jenna: said before in context today. good if they're not winning the campaign on their own because they're not the ones running for president, righ
of people have pointed out what a liar mitt romney is and was last night. i mean, if he was talking, if he was speaking last night, he was lying. look, mitt romney had a good night, but, you know, even, you know, a blind squirrel gets a nut every now and then. >> it's the old classic a broken clock is right twice a day. >> so the argument is that president obama was so shell-shocked, i guess he got up there on the podium he was so shell shocked he couldn't believe the lies coming from mitt romney he didn't know how to respond for two hours. >> that's ridiculous. >> don't you think the voters would prefer the president's team to say you know what? he had an off night. he overprepared. underprepared too busy being president. mitt romney a liar that's the best you can do. >> maybe mitt romney did really well. congratulations to you. i can't wait to get to october 16th when we can try this again. >> you thought so much of the primary season mitt romney was running to the right of the party saying he was severely conservative all of these things he was saying to say how conservative he was. he
mitt romney rather than talking about his own record. and biden's weird performance was kind of a piece of that technique that they have adopted. i think voters are looking for something deeper from the president now. the burden is on him to show it next week. >> no hint of a second term agenda in biden's -- >> no, not at all. i think he showed president obama that you can be aggressive, you can defend. >> so romney ought to be on notice, he's coming at you? >> right. >> but he also showed us how not to be aggressive at the same time. and one of the dangers is, i got the impression from the last presidential debate that romney was holding back a little bit. that he was really -- >> really? >> that he was a little nice, he left a few zingers on the table because he was dominating. >> but obama is such a cooler customer than biden. biden is all heat and energy and attack. obama is laid-back. i mean, can he really go on the attack like biden? >> i think he can, but i think the danger is he opens the door for romney to be more aggressive in his responses, and i think gov. romney will be mor
. >> bill: yeah, he's good in those situation, but so is romney. >> let me talk about the depth of his support. when you look at the political, george washington poll that came out, this is taken mostly before the debate when certainly that's going to switch some support to the republicans, the enthusiasm gap is really big. double digits. some people saying they're -- >> bill: the polls say the romney voters are more motivated than the obama voters. >> it's moving more in that direction. >> bill: marjorie, last word. >> there is another interesting phenomenon. according to cbs "new york times" polling, obama has actually edged out the elite on the economy that romney had. that was his strongest point. so where we going into foreign relation, the next topic, obama has -- >> bill: i don't know if the president is in good shape in there right now after what cbs news said. i got to go. thanks, ladies. plenty more ahead. we'll play you some of the rumble between me and john tutor. give you a taste of what went down. bernie goldberg will analyze. california gas prices five bucks in some plac
republicans. mitt romney is a strong leader who stood up and talked against the talking point, one of the favorite ones that steve israel has, how republicans want to sendions overseas. mitt romney said i have been in business 40 years, vinever seen a tax advantage. that's an advantage to us when you have experience at the top of the ticket of building jobs, jobs creation and a chance to turn this country around. i believe in paul ryan and mitt romney. and i think steve israel will find out that republicans hold the house quite soundly, defeating democrats. >> shannon: we will find out, one month from today. thank you for your time today. >> you bet. >> reporter: >> shannon: pastors across the country are sounding off on moral, social and political issues today, part of pulpit freedom sunday. it could be coming to a church near you. we will talk about it and wais at stake, right after the break. [ thunder crashes ] [ female announcer ] some people like to pretend a flood could never happen to them. and that their homeowners insurance protects them. [ thunder crashes ] it doesn't. s
before it is for voters to know. we would be talking about mitt romney's loose interpretation of the facts regardless of what the people thought of the pet's performance. his own campaign walked back what romney said about covering people with preexisting conditions in the healthcare plan. >> marjorie wasn't the president lying when he repeatedly said mitt romney would raise taxes five trillion dollars. it will not be near five trillion wasn't that a lie. >> no it is not a lie because romney will not talk about the loop holes. he refuses to walk through the math. paul ryan said i don't have time to deal with that. and voters want the facts and they don't want the spin and verse, they want somebody to show up and walk them through the math. you can see him take a variety of the positions and you don't see paul ryan do it. >> you are following the talking points. that they are big fact liar: amelia don't you think that accounts back fire with the president. he's been so likeable . that could take a tollwith the gutter ball. >> the republicans went through seven stages of grief.
. that is a difference. we talk about it before. romney two-point lead. margin of error is tied. first time in a year, real clear politic average, he has the lead in the average of recent polls. what about this? the panel, jonah goldberg, from national review online. kirsten powers for daily beast. syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. charles, today's developments and well, big bird. >> democrats are actually running an ad showing big bird and contracting it with the bad guys on wall street. >> let's just play it. might as well. >> i'm just a prop here. >> bret: right. you're teeing it up. play it. >> bernie madoff, ken lay, dennis kezlowsky, criminals, glut top of greed, evil genius who tower over them. one man has the guts to speak his name. >> big bird. big bird. big bird. >> it's me, big bird. >> big, yellow, menace to our economy. mitt romney knows it's not wall street you have to worry about. it's "sesame street." >> bret: charles? >> this could be the worst ad i've ever seen. i make an appeal to people in chicago. run this ad every night over and over again, spend all of your money. and t
of the americans who are race 710,000 jobs. >>trace: we talked about this libya thing, governor romney responding to the vice president's libya remarks. >>reporter: the romney campaign is going after the vice president about the comments on the benghazi consulate. particularly in light of what the state department officials testified to earlier in the week on the stump in richmond, virginia, governor romney says it raises a lot of troubling questions, new questions about the attack. >> when the vice president of the united states directly ton extra -- contradicts the sworn testimony of state officials american citizens have the right to find out what is going on. we will find out. >>reporter: the romney campaign going after the obama campaign for suggesting the only reason the murders are an issue is because romney and ryan are making it one. romney said the reason it is an issue is because an american consulate was attacked by terrorists and four americans are dead. trace? >>trace: thank you, john roberts, from virginia. our g.o.p. strategist and former texas political director for bob dole's ca
to anywhere. >> romney done that to obama. why are we only talking about one side? romney basically called obama on a liar. when he calls on the continuing fb bringcations he is how he is hurt. he flip-flopped on abortion yesterday. what does he stand for? martha: but here he is, to my mind, this is a great, wonderful thing about debates. and particularly in many ways i think the format we saw the other night which was, somewhat unusual format which really allowed them to talk about who they were. what you were seeing up there in many ways, was not the campaigns. i mean you saw the two men. and they had a chance to go at it. >> that's the point. martha: they had a chance to encounter each other when called on it. so it is difficult to say anyway anybody was portrayed in a way that was unfair. >> obama didn't call him a liar during the debate. a lot of people wish he did. he didn't go after romney on some of the prevarications. martha: do you think it would be a good idea. >> i wouldn't use word liar. his feet have to be held to the fire. if you want to make numbers work, what loopholes wil
-to-head again. that is different kind of format. the town hall format. president and mitt romney will talk to individual voters asking questions, that may be a better format for the president. jon: but it does seem that states like ohio and nevada are getting tighter, and you know, with, well the election is four weeks from tomorrow. if that momentum holds for the romney team, it could really be a surprising turn around come election day? >> it certainly could. of course the romney campaign and republican national committee did a big turnout drive this past weekend. they have been doing a lot of that. we've seen it, we've seen it more from democrats. they have been exposing some of their organizational advantages all summer long. we're just now seeing how much the romney campaign is doing in some of these states. you're right, it absolutely could turn around. until we see romney leading in a lot of these averages in a lot of these states the president still has the edge. jon: one of the questions is about voter enthusiasm. one poll says republican enthusiasm, especially post-debate, is muc
the president and governor romney on russia we want to talk more where we're going. here is how the candidates talk about russia if you will. we're going to roll some sound. >> but he is eager to give russia's president putin the flexibility he desires after the election. [booing] under my administration our friend will see more loyalty and mr. putin will see a little less flexibility and more backbone. >> after all you don't call russia our number one enemy, not al qaeda, russia, unless you're still stuck in a cold war mind warp. [applause] jenna: so two very different perspectives. how should a new administration, whoever has it, engage russia in the next coming years? >> well, first of all you can't help but note both the candidates were pretty good at attack the other for probably the most inelegant and inopportune thing either one said on the subject. at one time governor romney did exaggerate calling russia our number one geostrategic foe. i don't see the argument for that. i also think president obama made the mistake with that open mic mistake back in korea earlier this year when he di
of what he and mitt romney have run on just like romney did last week. carl cameron is traveling with the governor. he just wrapped autopsy rally in ohio. good evening to you. he was talking today about his position on abortion. how did that come up, carl? >> yesterday when we were in ohio, governor romney was asked by one register to talk about his abortion position and he said he didn't know of any legislation that might come up that would affect his agenda. that caused an instant slam from the obama campaign who suggested romney was changing his position. back in 2005, he was pro-choice prior to that and became pro-life. today on the campaign trail here in ohio, mr. romney was asked again to clarify and this is kind of hard to hear. it was a very crowded restaurant in delaware, ohio. here is what he said. >> i think i said time and again, i'm a pro-life candidate. i'll be a pro-life president. the actions i'll take immediately are to remove funding for planned parenthood, will not be part of my budget. and also i've indicated i'll reverse the mexico city position of theeinstat
the romney spot. people out and about after the debate to spin and talk to local affiliates. in this corner, obama team. we will talk with deputy campaign manager stephanie cutter here on "special report" live after the break. keep here. announcer ] how do you make 70,000 trades a second... ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ or help doctors turn billions of bytes of shared information... ♪ into a fifth anniversary of remission? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. [ "the odd couple" theme playing ] humans. even when we cross our "t"s d dot our "i"s, we sll run into oblems -- mainly other humans. at liberty mutual insurance, we understand. that's why our auto policies come with accident forgiveness if you qualify, where your rates won't go up due to your first accident, and new car replacement, where if you total your new car, we give you the money for a new one. call... to talk to an insurance expert about everything else that comes standard with our base auto policy. [ tires squeal ] and if you get into an accident and use on
presidential election, but is still a massive amount of money, last night, talking to the romney campaign and the big fund-raising dollars the obama campaign was putting up, romney staffers smiled as if to suggest they might top it. >> arthel: and also a statement, romney pushing his tax policy, this weekend, right? >> reporter: of course in the wake of the debate in which the romney campaign it really defined the race, a choice between a dependency society with rising taxes that could hurt the recovery, versus the romney agenda which could cut taxes and rely fully on a smaller government and individual responsibility and entrepreneurial spirit and the romney campaign is attacking ever harder. here's a sample from last night. >> it has been calculated his tax plan raising taxes will cost 700,000 jobs. i will not raise taxes on small business and not raise taxes on middle income families. >> reporter: he will spend a little more time in florida and campaign here tomorrow and he has been doing a bit of debate prep with robhe senator from ohio and his debate sparring... playing the role of m
. she is pro-big bird. mitt romney was talking yesterday he is against government subsidizing public broadcasting. here they both are. >> we believe in keeping our priorities straight. we all know good ask well that cutting sesame street is no way to balance the budget. >> food stamps, when the president took office, 32 million people on food stamps. now there are 47 million people on food stamps. these are tough times with real serious issues. so you have to scratch your head when the president spends the last week talking about saving big bird. [ laughter ] >> steve: he's right. >> brian: what an insult to the american people to think we're that stupid, we need a childhood character to drive home the fact that we're voting in november? >> gretchen: exactly. and that that would even be an admission that to keep it simple, stupid, is going to attract more people to your side. >> brian: keep it simple, you are stupid. >> gretchen: i mean, my goodness. again, i'm heartened by how many millions of people watched the debates and i hope just as many watch tomorrow night. the number of men
. this is not the recovery we all wanted but we're on the road. for mitt romney it does take away one of talking points he has been very big on, number of consecutive months that the number has been at 8% or above, that line is gone from his speech. short term positives are there for president obama but long term you look at the historical numbers in terms of unemployment in presidential reelection years and depth of the political challenges are great here. >> heather: i'll ask you more about historically in a moment but the numbers have been called into question. there is actually a huge disconnect between the modest of new jobs report and significant decrease in the unemployment rate. jack welch, he went to as far to suggest that the numbers may be manipulated by the obama administration. do you think that the numbers add up? >> i think the suggestion that the numbers was cooked is relatively ridiculous. that being said. economists at the labor department will admit freely that there is a lot of margin of error in these numbers. a month after each job report these numbers are revised upward or downward.
in 08. no word for the romney campaign. but when i talked to staffers last night and discussed the obama total of over 181 million dollars. they all smiled and grinned and said perhaps we can top that. they haven't said that is the case. for mr. romney 12 million just since the debate. that is a vast amount of on line fund raise there is concern in the republican party that the big donor are making their money for the house and senate because mr. mitt romney had a tough go and well, in the wake of the debate uptake in big dollar donations for the romney campaign suggest they aleviated. there is a major phone bank and calling all over the country that type of grass roots is very, very important as we are 31 days from the election . it is electric. people were wait traffic was thick around that venu. i want to explain to everybody. we are monitor what the government is saying. he is getting cheers about remarks of repealing obama care. carl is on the job . campaign carl, we don't call him that for nothing. moving on now . and sticking with the economy. gas prices reaching an all-time high
is important is that the fundamentals of what this race is about hasn't changed. governor romney went to trouble hide what his positions are. >> bret: president obama on abc tonight. talking about the debate. the poll changed, likely voters and romney-ryan ticket with one-point lead within the margin of error. among independent voters changed significantly. 44 to 3 #%, there you see. that is a big shift. steve, as promised, your thoughts on how the race has shifted as we get ready to head to danville, kentucky, tomorrow for the vice presidential debate? >> i think, evidence in the president's meants right there. i think they don't know how to answer this debate surge that romney has had. it's been a surge. it looks like sustained surge. you seen the white house scram to believe come up with an answer. first they said he was too conservative, then a flip-floper and then it was about big bird and he wasn't serious, this was an attempt to go after the deficit, he wasn't serious; whereas, they spent most of the campaign arguing that ryan and romney were radical, they wanted to overturn me
on the economy. >> shep: you were talking about policy. what is it that governor romney says he would do differently? >> well, there haven't been a lot of specifics. there are some differences, however. for instance, mr. romney has said he will move to impose sanctions on iraq -- iran with the international community much more aggressively, as well as additional pressure from the united states. he argues that he will enable the rebels in syria to arm themselves more effectively, to go up against the iran-backed regime of assad who has been crushing rebels and killing civilians. and mr. romney said he will link relations with egypt, now led by pot morsi of the muslim brotherhood, what has been described virulent anti-west and says our relationship will be based on trade, something mr. romney said should be much more aggressively policed and pursued, free trade and fairer trade with china. those really the only major distinctions emphasized today and outlined in terms of specifics from mr. romney. shep? >> shep: carl cameron live in virginia. as i mentioned, president obama's team was resp
stephanie cutter blaming governor romney for turning tragedy into politics. >> we're here in a debate. and i hope we get to talk about the debate. the eastbound entire reason this has become the political topic it is because of mitt romney and paul ryan. it's a big part of the stump speech. it's reckless and irresponsible. >> the romney campaign says the obama campaign is wrong. in a statement the campaign said the reason it is an issue because for the first time since 1979 an american ambassador was assassinated and president obama's strategy is failing. former senior advisor to president reagan joins us. your thoughts about what stephanie cutter said? >> i think it's nonsense. this was the worst terrorist attack since september 11th. gangs of dozens of men with ak 47s and rocket propelled grenades and mortarred attacked and murdered ambassador, then a safe house, some guys got away and reported it that night. it may have been in realtime. this was a terrorist attack. and the ambassador is dead. and then, to have five days later our un ambassador say on five stations that this was a spontan
said six times, he talked about the youtube video. now they're trying to blame the ryan-romney ticket for making this an issue. >> steve: of course, that's what they were talk being yesterday. so who won? cnn and cnbc did polls and mr. ryan was on top. cbs had one with some focus group. they felt that the vice president won. peggy nuland writes fort second time in two weeks, the democrat came out and defeated himself. in both cases, the republican was strong and the democrat somewhat disturbing. another way to say it is the old man tried it patronize the kid and the kid stood his ground. the old man pushed and the kid pushed back. >> brian: she did not mean that complimentary. >> gretchen: i actually think had is a debate that's going to percolate over a couple of days. when people go back and read and maybe see video and see this reaction, i think it may percolate over time where people will maybe change their opinion of exactly how it went. >> brian: it was -- >> gretchen: i think a lot of people -- i think it rubbed them the wrong way with the attitude. the headlines now. one month
romney, no question, that debate was a game changer, but jamie, a debate doesn't win an election, it sets the tone. he has to keep performing, keep talking about what he will do to create a better america and are you better off than you were four years ago. and we have all of these poll numbers dealing with swing states, but the polls that count, would you go to the poll and vote and i believe that people are going to vote their wallets, not going to vote their conscience, not their culture, are you better off and do you have a job. >> jamie: given the economy is such a key issue, doug, i want to look forward to the first vice-presidential debate. without a doubt, paul ryan is a numbers guy and democrats have not even gotten a budget passed. not to mention the fact that vice-president biden is seen as making gaffe after gaffe when it comes to whether or not the last four years have been crushing for the middle class, he's had to backtrack on a couple of statements, i can't go through them all we don't have time. >> we don't have time right now. >> jamie: but what about that vice-president
, what's the thinking on governor romney's bounce in the polls since that first big debate? >> they are very pumped here. the romney campaign is quite excited. they say there is more to come. they're building and talking about their ground game, grassroots, 4 million people have been contacted here in ohio alone. 4 1/2 million. that's more than a third of the overall population. the polls have ticked up. romney has closed the gap, leading in some of the national polls, within the mar i didn't know of error, and in most of the battle ground states, he's either closed the gap and in a couple of cases, gone up by a point or two. these are swings in the polls. he's eliminated any bounce the president had gotten from his convention with the own bounce he got last week. with the vice presidential debate this week and two more presidential debathes and generally both campaigns have recognized for the better part of the last year that this race was always going to hover at a close to even tie, 45-47 apiece and it will be decided probably in the last two weeks to ten days as that la
as well when people saw romney because he did not seem like an extremist. he seemed like a reasonable guy. you can be sure, and again, that was another thing that obama didn't hit at all. he never talked about the social issues and women. you got to assume that biden is going to go after that tonight. >> shep: yeah. i would be very surprised if he didn't. i don't know about you, i have greater anticipation for this vice presidential debate than any i can remember. >> well, four years ago when sarah palin was interesting, too. but i will say -- >> shep: for different reasons. >> let me be the first to announce that the nationals won on a walk-off homerun. >> shep: we were watching it. congratulations to your nats. >> there you go. now i can focus solely on the vice presidential debate. >> shep: so in other words, you don't care about the yankees? >> no. i'd like the orioles to beat them. not particularly. [ laughter ] >> shep: all right. yankee fans love the haters. chris wallace, great to see you. paul ryan had a tuna salad sandwich for lunch so he could relax. vice president biden had ch
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